Speeches, etc.

Margaret Thatcher

TV Interview for BBC (expulsions from Soviet Union)

Document type: Speeches, interviews, etc.
Venue: Unknown
Source: Thatcher Archive: transcript (extract)
Journalist: John Harrison, BBC
Editorial comments:

Time and place uncertain. The full interview cannot be traced. Additional - but very similar - remarks in the BBC Television Archive appear to come from a separate interview (possibly with John Cole): "It reveals that perhaps the Soviet Union has changed rather less than a number of other people had hoped. We had hoped that it ushered in a new era. It indicates that many of the things are still the same. I am ... I am disappointed, but we gave them the chance. They have not taken it and they have revealed their true nature".

Importance ranking: Major
Word count: 164
Themes: Foreign policy (USSR & successor states)

As Geoffrey Howe indicated, we had to expel those people because they were doing things which should just not be done at all and we had to get rid of them. We had to send them back to Moscow. We had hoped that with a new era dawning in relations, that with the Soviet Union taking a different view on many things, they might have accepted that and not have retaliated in the way they did, and the people in our Embassy who have been doing no such thing and certainly the journalists have not been doing any such thing, either. They were given a choice: were they going to show that things were different or were they going to prove by what they did that things have not really changed very much at all? They chose the latter. It was very well worth while trying to do it that way to show how much more powerfully; now people know.

We gave them a choice not to retaliate. They chose not to take that choice.

I have not myself spoken to Mr Gorbachev.